tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post2637550362966807765..comments2024-03-28T16:32:41.081+00:00Comments on Battlefields and Warriors: A short campaign, OHW meets 'O' GroupNormhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-16372548766027118422021-12-31T06:08:57.833+00:002021-12-31T06:08:57.833+00:00Yes, it is the scenarios that make the case for th...Yes, it is the scenarios that make the case for the book. Most blogs that discuss the rules seem to employ their own tweaks to bring the rules to a better place for them.Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-41564636237463771562021-12-30T23:30:46.745+00:002021-12-30T23:30:46.745+00:00My main complaint is the lack of tactical options....My main complaint is the lack of tactical options. Each unit type has 1 and only 1 tactic in every era. Eg in all the firepower eras, extreme range has the same effect as moving up to point blank range it just allows the enemy to wear you down while you advance with no better effect when you get there. Something as simple as a long range penalty would make a world of difference by making players make choices. An easy tweak but its easier to just use my usual rules with the scenarios.<br /><br />My secondary complaint is that the force charts are designed so that no player may ever field an all arms force. I get around that by rolling twice on the 3 chart instead of the 6!<br /><br />Damned handy simplified scenarios though!Ross Mac rmacfa@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04053555991679802013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-13432504510571532442021-10-15T11:08:46.612+00:002021-10-15T11:08:46.612+00:00Hi Steve, it has been a reminder to me just how so...Hi Steve, it has been a reminder to me just how solid these OHW scenarios are. They are great for throw down games and for rule testing etc. I might have a little dabble with Rapid Fire Reloaded at some point in the campaign.Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-33043584254865509562021-10-15T07:39:35.942+00:002021-10-15T07:39:35.942+00:00late to the party here, Norm, this is a great idea...late to the party here, Norm, this is a great idea. a tidy, compact campaign with lots of tension and a good set of rules to accompany it.<br /><br />the static defense scenario is one of my favorites of the OHW lot. no shortage of decisions to be made for both sides. enjoyed, thanks!Disgruntled Fusilierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995610821904415726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-66576416938410895732021-10-14T10:26:09.810+00:002021-10-14T10:26:09.810+00:00Hi Iain, the 57mm is pretty effective, but was per...Hi Iain, the 57mm is pretty effective, but was perhaps lucky to stay in the game. Yes a campaign is a bit greedy :-) I am starting face to face gaming tomorrow, our first meet in 19 months!Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-57458199709339388292021-10-14T08:32:12.297+00:002021-10-14T08:32:12.297+00:00I didn't think the Soviets had much chance wit...I didn't think the Soviets had much chance with the forces at the start,the 57mm did well,sounds like it worked well,be nice to get a game, let alone a campaign!<br />Best Iain caveadsum1471https://www.blogger.com/profile/02174163740406928172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-81245111823196680582021-10-13T09:58:44.594+00:002021-10-13T09:58:44.594+00:00Hi Keith, there is just something about the presen...Hi Keith, there is just something about the presentation style of the Canadian Wargames Group books that hits a sweet spot for me, perhaps a nostalgic thing!<br /><br />I enjoyed my opening game for itself and for its setting within a bigger story. I am adding some additional notes over on my Commanders web page.<br /><br />The next game looks equally tough for the Soviets and at the moment, I wouldn’t like to bet on the outcome of that one!Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-86385294472248656882021-10-13T09:20:54.016+00:002021-10-13T09:20:54.016+00:00Great stuff Norm, I always fancy the idea of a cam...Great stuff Norm, I always fancy the idea of a campaign but have only played one once - the Canadian Wargames Group Habitants and Highlanders FIW campaign, which was great fun! I thought the Russians were done for when reading the forces - its just as well they were able to concentrate on one of the two objectives - and lucky the AT gun managed to survive and take out a lot of the German armour - fingers crossed for a repeat performance in game two (well, you cant support the Germans nowadays, can you?!)rrosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316317334203888350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-69223372118683693612021-10-12T20:53:25.977+00:002021-10-12T20:53:25.977+00:00Hi Stew, yes, it was nearly a very short campaign!...Hi Stew, yes, it was nearly a very short campaign! I’m not sure it is getting easier for them. For game 2, the Soviets have just drawn T-70’s (again), while the defending Germans will get Panzer IV G. There are however some quirky aspects to the scenario that might help them!Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-84073444997275979672021-10-12T19:13:30.243+00:002021-10-12T19:13:30.243+00:00Good thing the Russians won or the campaign would ...Good thing the Russians won or the campaign would be over! I played once in a campaign similar but of course we never finished. 😀<br />In ours the attackers had a larger force and the defenders had some small reinforcements. A lot like the pint sized campaigns you can get from TFL. Stewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00340930167419307092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-35386495212449803372021-10-12T14:47:23.168+00:002021-10-12T14:47:23.168+00:00Hi Matt, it lacks the admin phase that I usually g...Hi Matt, it lacks the admin phase that I usually go for, which allows the buying of reinforcements and the recovery of tanks from the field, which knits the campaign together, but with the decision to go purely with OHW scenarios, that was rather precluded and I think each OHW scenario is good enough to stand on its own two feet anyway!Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-59993136440138782802021-10-12T14:44:27.200+00:002021-10-12T14:44:27.200+00:00Hi Gary, you don't get the full utility of the...Hi Gary, you don't get the full utility of the rules, but you do get all of the 'O' Group processes and routines and it trundles along fine.Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-39013788499337144742021-10-12T14:42:44.083+00:002021-10-12T14:42:44.083+00:00Thanks Michael, I think it would work equally well...Thanks Michael, I think it would work equally well for your preferred medieval period.Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-15018773376159363442021-10-12T14:41:53.949+00:002021-10-12T14:41:53.949+00:00Thanks Martin, its funny how a campaign takes on a...Thanks Martin, its funny how a campaign takes on a life of its own from the very outset. I may find that I should have spent some time deliberately choosing the 5 scenarios and their positions on the ladder, rather than going down the random selection route - only time will tell.Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-25239700774904271092021-10-12T07:35:15.727+00:002021-10-12T07:35:15.727+00:00Good looking game Norm, you have put a lot of effo...Good looking game Norm, you have put a lot of effort in developing the campaign and details I will need to come back to the post again later to fully absorb.Matt Crumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06841790422716738842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-45746375336042859812021-10-12T07:23:31.411+00:002021-10-12T07:23:31.411+00:00 Very interesting to see O Group ‘down scaled’ and... Very interesting to see O Group ‘down scaled’ and useable. Sgt Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17805201299484374889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-23446343343721658062021-10-12T07:21:23.941+00:002021-10-12T07:21:23.941+00:00Great looking games and have to try someday this g...Great looking games and have to try someday this game!Michal DwarfCrypthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05915669873652904866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-87663690975654156732021-10-12T07:10:12.494+00:002021-10-12T07:10:12.494+00:00Great stuff Norm, very exciting. I've done a f...Great stuff Norm, very exciting. I've done a few linked scenario OHW campaigns and they work very well. As you know, I've basically re written the OHW WW2 rules completely and the scenarios work well with any set of rules. Martin Rapierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16788664847205341619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-28978069507013857182021-10-11T18:22:33.306+00:002021-10-11T18:22:33.306+00:00Thanks Steve, even the simple 5 zone ladder I have...Thanks Steve, even the simple 5 zone ladder I have used can be re-cycled with different scenarios from the 30 thrown into that grid and then a different era chosen and then ‘other’ favoured rules, so yes, a ton of flexibility and milage from these scenarios.Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-21516609868726372562021-10-11T17:32:36.369+00:002021-10-11T17:32:36.369+00:00Great stuff Norm and a neat idea to use the OHW Sc...Great stuff Norm and a neat idea to use the OHW Scenarios to generate a campaign. I've used them for HoW and BPII, but never for WWII. This however has piqued my interest and will investigate further and I can see lots of mileage in this. Looking forward to the next battle:)Steve J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12143308117853983963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-5937188577861912262021-10-11T13:01:43.111+00:002021-10-11T13:01:43.111+00:00We agree, Ross! OHW rules present games of attrit...We agree, Ross! OHW rules present games of attrition almost every time and grow stale very quickly. The scenarios, though, are terrific.Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-89419325891893102472021-10-11T12:57:18.285+00:002021-10-11T12:57:18.285+00:00Hi Jonathan, rather than drawn away, it is just a ...Hi Jonathan, rather than drawn away, it is just a change of level (company up to battalion) and I quite like the ethos behind the rules and the way that the infantry fight as a platoon, with the section elements still being an obvious part of the Platoons DNA. The processes are quite slick and quickly become second nature.<br /><br />In truth, these campaign games are actually company games, which stretch ‘O’ Group downwards a little, so my open table TaM might have been a good way to go, while getting a bit more testing done. Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-91324101768422910502021-10-11T12:48:30.902+00:002021-10-11T12:48:30.902+00:00Hi Ross. The rules are an interesting exercise in ...Hi Ross. The rules are an interesting exercise in ‘bare essentials’ and with rules I think it is easier to like something that is not your main interest ….. but for a main interest (i.e. WWII for me) omissions are more likely to be felt. But as you say, the 30 scenarios are very useful and worth the admission price :-)Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-16047379859457128902021-10-11T12:41:03.478+00:002021-10-11T12:41:03.478+00:00An interesting and enjoyable post.
I really (re...An interesting and enjoyable post. <br /><br /> I really (<b><i>really</i></b>) don't like the OHW rules, largely because they basically remove all tactical options. However, the simplified scenarios do work well with all sorts of other rules.Ross Mac rmacfa@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04053555991679802013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5368677310334370714.post-63740493399386179952021-10-11T12:35:18.627+00:002021-10-11T12:35:18.627+00:00You are not alone in your reaction, my friend.You are not alone in your reaction, my friend.Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.com